Martin & Susan Fisher are the Co-Founders and Teachers of Body of 9. Body of 9 is an innovative, body-based personality assessment that, through your posture, body type, and how you physically express yourself, identifies your Natural Number. This gives you an experience of your innate self, taking your understanding of who you are to a whole new level.
Numbers tell the truth. Each of us has our own Natural Number, from 1 to 9, which is the key to who we are, how we think, react, act, and interact. The Body of 9 system reveals those innate differences and helps us learn to resolve them, bringing us closer together. Once you know that Natural Number (and those of the people around you), you’ll discover how to have more awareness of yourself, your relationships, your life, and how you communicate to bridge deeper and meaningful connections.
Susan and Martin Fisher are pioneers in the study and research of the 9 Natural Numbers. With over thirty years of combined research and experience with Body of 9, their work has led to many new discoveries and a deeper understanding of the importance, power, and impact of knowing your Natural Number and learning to consciously use this aspect of your body. Since 2012, Susan and Martin Fisher have been working together to identify over 7500 people from around the world and to build and share the understanding of how the Body of 9 shows up in so many aspects of human experience.
Where did the idea for Body of 9 come from?
Body of 9 is based on a discovery that was made serendipitously using a combination of Aikido exercises and the Enneagram. The discovery was that people responded physically differently to the martial arts exercises depending on and correlating with how they had been identified using the Enneagram assessment. Susan and Martin Fisher of Body of 9 worked with the couple who made the initial observation. The Fishers continued their study researching known systems of 9, personality models, and history. They spent 9 years in the field researching their process and descriptions of what they call the Natural Numbers working with 8000+ people from around the world.
Their research resulted in the Body of 9 system and tools which describe how the human body has nine regions of activation; only one is naturally active at birth, which we refer to as your Natural Number. Each Natural Number has a region of the body that includes a set of muscles, bones, and fascia. When activated through posture, attention, and intention, a shift occurs in our processing that affects how the primary senses are decoded and allows access to other physical and nonphysical information sources. This provides different information and perspective to a person, depending on which region is activated.
What does your typical day look like and how do you make it productive?
We are building and growing Body of 9. On any given day we can be identifying people’s Natural Numbers, meeting with Coaches and Holistic Practitioner partners, or working on all the aspects of running a company, from finances to marketing, to research. What might be different for us is we actively integrate our practices learned from researching Body of 9 in our day-to-day activities and team meetings.
How do you bring ideas to life?
We get everyone in our company identified and we integrate the understanding of the Natural Numbers into everything we do. We practice our own exercises and meditations, and we actively seek the input of all 9 Natural Numbers in anything we create.
What’s one trend that excites you?
Consciousness! Understanding and consciously choosing your beliefs creates freedom from fear and control. In this day and age, this is critical for free-thinking, and choosing the life you want to live. We are excited to see this in more and more conversations out there.
What is one habit of yours that makes you more productive as an entrepreneur?
I regularly activate the other 8 Natural Numbers depending on what is needed at the moment. My natural way of being is high-energy, enthusiastic, and directed. Sometimes this is not needed. Using my awareness of how activating the different centers in my body gives me different outcomes, I can tune myself into the moment to adjust to what is needed. For example, if more vulnerability is needed, I would activate Natural Number 1. If more possibilities were needed, I would activate Natural Number 7. This expands my perceptive skills and lets my body lead me to new interactions.
What advice would you give your younger self?
Be you, be aware of yourself and your impact, learn skills to be more effective, but don’t let anyone take away your connection to who you are at your core.
Tell us something that’s true that almost nobody agrees with you on.
Understanding, exploring, and practicing your body’s Natural Number awareness is the fastest and most effective way to transform your being, improve your relationships and live a happier life. (Most people who have experience with Body of 9 actually do agree with me, but not enough people have yet to experience Body of 9, so how could they agree with me?)
As an entrepreneur, what is the one thing you do over and over and recommend everyone else do?
Consciously activate my Natural Number in my body through postural adjustment and breath when I need to do anything so I start from my most present and aware self.
What is one strategy that has helped you grow your business?
Choosing a niche and developing a “what do I do” statement that defines the problem that we solve for our niche and establishes our credibility.
What is one failure you had as an entrepreneur, and how did you overcome it?
Continually describing our modality and trying to serve everyone was our Achilles heel. We have solved this by focusing on a niche for coaches and holistic practitioners and refining our messages.
What is one business idea that you’re willing to give away to our readers?
Become a Body of 9 Certified Practitioner: Learn about Body of 9, get identified, do your personal work, then take it out into the world through your own practices and modalities.
What is the best $100 you recently spent? What and why?
I signed up and attended Thrive’s 3 Day Client Attraction Mastery Launch Event and it completely changed the playing field for us. Thrive’s system had all the pieces that we were missing from our marketing efforts and delivered them in a manageable and structured way that ultimately is becoming natural and easy, and transforming our business daily.
What is one piece of software or a web service that helps you be productive?
We use Active Campaign to manage our email communications and we actively use the automation system for all kinds of services that we offer to support our clients. More recently we started using the CRM function to track and communicate with clients as well.
What is the one book that you recommend our community should read and why?
Body of 9: Decode Your Physiology and Discover Your True Self. If you want to learn about the power of your body, how to access it, how to support others that are different from you, how to be a better parent, and have stronger, more satisfying relationships, this is the book.
What is your favorite quote?
My favorite quote is actually one that I made up myself. I am sure there are other versions out there, but my version is:
“Your life is made up of the sum of the days that you live. If you want to make a difference in your life, to live a life that matters to you, then you have to do something every day that makes that day matter to you.”
There is no waiting until tomorrow. There is no magic formula. It’s about choosing every day to do something that is important to you, and something that brings you joy and love. Then your life lived until the moment you die, is the life you chose. I believe that conscious choice is the most important tool we have for creating the life we want to lead.
Key Learnings:
- Consciousness is the best trend
- Understand and consciously choosing your beliefs creates freedom from fear and control
- Decode your physiology and discover your true self through the Body of 9 system
- If you want to make a difference in your life, to live a life that matters to you, then you have to do something every day that makes that day matter to you
Mario Schulzke is the Founder of ideamensch, which he started a decade ago to learn from entrepreneurs and give them a platform for their ideas.